{"id":6569,"date":"2015-04-23T17:14:53","date_gmt":"2015-04-24T00:14:53","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/emrabc.ca\/?p=6569"},"modified":"2015-05-23T17:37:19","modified_gmt":"2015-05-24T00:37:19","slug":"robot-lawn-mowers-astronomers-arent-so-happy","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/emrabc.ca\/?p=6569","title":{"rendered":"The Roomba for Lawns Is Really Pissing Off Astronomers"},"content":{"rendered":"<header>AUTHOR: DAVEY ALBA\u00a0 04.16.15.<time role=\"presentation\">04.16.15<\/time>WHO CAN HATE\u00a0a Roomba? Astronomers, that\u2019s who.<\/p>\n<p>The robotic vacuums we all know and love ensure we don\u2019t have to clean our own homes ourselves to get them spotless. (God forbid.) Now, the Roomba\u2019s maker, iRobot, wants to do for lawn care\u00a0what it did for vacuuming. According to filings with the FCC\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/spectrum.ieee.org\/automaton\/robotics\/home-robots\/irobot-definitely-developing-robot-lawnmower-astronomers-very-upset\">spotted by\u00a0IEEE Spectrum<\/a>, iRobot is designing a robotic mower\u2014news that should elate lazy people the world over.<\/p>\n<p>But one group is really, really unhappy about this boon to the slothful: Astronomers. Some of them are so upset, in fact, that their objections might put the kibosh on the whole thing. How could this be? In a scenario that sounds straight out of the Golden Age of sci-fi, it all comes down to robots versus telescopes, and how they all communicate.<\/p>\n<p>The saga started in February, when iRobot\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/apps.fcc.gov\/ecfs\/comment\/view?id=60001015477\">filed a waiver request<\/a>\u00a0with the FCC seeking approval to use a portion of the radio spectrum to help guide its robomower. The problem with grass-cutting bots, according to iRobot\u2019s filing, is the only way to get them to work is to dig a trench along the perimeter of a lawn and install a wire that creates the electronic fence needed to ensure the automatons don\u2019t wander beyond the property line.<\/p>\n<p>As a less arduous solution, iRobot proposes using stakes, driven into the ground, to act as beacons. The beacons will talk to the lawnbot, helping it map the area and stay within the designated boundaries. A typical user with a typical lawn (a quarter to a third of an acre) might need between four and nine beacons.<\/p>\n<p>But the system requires\u00a0special permission from the FCC due to its restrictions on fixed outdoor infrastructure. In a nutshell, the FCC\u00a0doesn\u2019t want people creating ad hoc networks of transmitters, which\u00a0could<strong> interfere\u00a0with existing authorized services like cellular and GPS systems<\/strong>. In its filings, iRobot says it should be exempt because it doesn\u2019t set out to establish a broad communications network\u2014its lawnbot networks would be tightly contained.<\/p>\n<p>Astronomers say that\u2019s not good enough. The\u00a0<strong>frequency band proposed for the lawnbot (6240-6740 MHz)<\/strong> is the very same one several enormous radio telescopes operate on. Astronomers want the FCC to protect their share of the radio spectrum so their telescopes continue observing methanol, which abounds in regions where celestial bodies are forming.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThe Observatory\u2019s telescopes \u2026 do a kind of celestial cartography that measures distances to star-forming regions with high precision, charting the course of galactic evolution,\u201d representatives of the National Radio Astronomy Observatory wrote in\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/apps.fcc.gov\/ecfs\/comment\/view?id=60001025783\">public comments<\/a>\u00a0to the FCC objecting to iRobot\u2019s application to the agency.<\/p>\n<h3>Stay Off Our Lawn<\/h3>\n<p>The solution iRobot proposes is to add a note in its user manual: \u201cConsumer use only; use must be limited to residential areas.\u201d This, the company argues, should ensure the lawnbots won\u2019t be doing their thing near observatories. But Harvey Liszt, spectrum manager with the NRAO, says a written warning likely won\u2019t work. \u201cWhat\u2019s to stop the guy who spends thousands of dollars on this product from using it in residential areas near our telescopes?\u201d he asks.<\/p>\n<p>Liszt says lawyers representing iRobot got in touch with the NRAO in January to explain\u00a0the tech specs before requesting the FCC waiver. Liszt responded to the message saying that the distances within which the \u2018bots would operate would be quite large, and he was not confident that iRobot could police each of its users. \u201cWe didn\u2019t talk anymore, then I saw the filing,\u201d Liszt says. \u201cI replied, and I was fairly surprised by how hard they pushed back.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>The communication breaks down between the NRAO and iRobot when the two entities do their calculations for the range the lawnbot beacons affect. Liszt and the NRAO claim a 55-mile exclusion zone is necessary to protect radio telescopes from harmful interference, while iRobot says 12 miles is sufficient. In a later response, iRobot added that NRAO observatories usually are surrounded by desert or forests, not environments where residential lawn equipment is used\u2014a claim the NRAO called \u201csilly.\u201d In its latest filing with the FCC, Liszt included pictures of some sites with telescopes he believes could be exposed to lawnbot beacon interference.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cNRAO is not trying to stop this, NRAO just wants people to respect where its telescopes are,\u201d says Liszt.<\/p>\n<p>The folks at iRobot declined to be interviewed for this story, saying the company\u2019s policy is not to discuss specifics around unannounced products or technologies.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIt\u2019s a very strange process,\u201d says Liszt of the back-and-forth playing out via the FCC\u2019s public comments. \u201cBut the topic really grabs the public\u2019s interest\u2014it\u2019s telescopes against robots. I think there may well be larger issues here that the FCC will base their decision on.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/header>\n<header><a href=\"http:\/\/www.wired.com\/2015\/04\/irobot-lawnbot\/\">http:\/\/www.wired.com\/2015\/04\/irobot-lawnbot\/<\/a><\/header>\n<header><\/header>\n<header><\/header>\n<header><\/header>\n<h2><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Robot Lawn Mowers, Astronomers Aren&#8217;t So Happy<\/span><\/h2>\n<header><\/header>\n<header id=\"hid400183904\">by\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.npr.org\/people\/348770153\/krishnadev-calamur\">Krishnadev Calamur<\/a><\/header>\n<div>\n<div>You won&#8217;t be able to use a robot lawn mower within 55 miles of the <strong><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/emrabc.ca\/?p=6548\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">Robert C. Byrd Green Bank Telescope in Green Bank, W.VA<\/span><\/a><\/span><\/strong>., if the National Radio Astronomy Observatory has its way.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<p>Apr, 16 2015<\/p>\n<p>What could a robot lawn mower possibly have to do with astronomy? A lot, apparently.<\/p>\n<p>iRobot, which makes Roomba, the wireless vacuum cleaner, appears to be developing a robot lawn mower \u2013 one that would work using a wireless beacon system. That&#8217;s according to\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/apps.fcc.gov\/ecfs\/comment\/view?id=60001015477\">a waiver filing<\/a>\u00a0in February with the Federal Communications Commission.<\/p>\n<p><em>Wired<\/em>,\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.wired.com\/2015\/04\/irobot-lawnbot\/\">where we spotted this story<\/a>, has the details:<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;The problem with grass-cutting bots, according to iRobot&#8217;s filing, is the only way to get them to work is to dig a trench along the perimeter of a lawn and install a wire that creates the electronic fence needed to ensure the automaton don&#8217;t wander beyond the property line.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;As a less arduous solution, iRobot proposes using stakes, driven into the ground, to act as beacons. The beacons will talk to the lawnbot, helping it map the area and stay within the designated boundaries. A typical user with a typical lawn (a quarter to a third of an acre) might need between four and nine beacons.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>But it turns out that the <span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>frequency range<\/strong><\/span> in which this lawn mower would work was also used by astronomers for spectral line observations. That&#8217;s why iRobot applied for a waiver. The filing says:<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Because this use is location specific, there is little risk of interference as homeowners will not be operating the RLMs near observatories, especially those located in desert or mountainous regions. As well, the above ground attenuation of the RLM, ground clutter, and the curvature of the earth will combine to protect RAS. iRobot will commit to placing a notice in the user manual and on the robot that states: &#8220;Consumer use only; use must be limited to residential areas.&#8221; This should ensure that the RLMs are not operated near highways, where DSRC operations will occur, or near observatories, where there is RAS use of the spectrum.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>As the robotics website IEEE Spectrum,\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/spectrum.ieee.org\/automaton\/robotics\/home-robots\/irobot-definitely-developing-robot-lawnmower-astronomers-very-upset\">which first reported on this controversy<\/a>, noted the range that iRobot wants its robot lawn mower to operate in, <strong>6650-6675.2 MHz<\/strong>, is used by the National Radio Astronomy Observatory to spot the spectral signature of methanol in space.<\/p>\n<p>The NRAO, as you might imagine, was not persuaded by iRobot&#8217;s argument, and\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/apps.fcc.gov\/ecfs\/comment\/view?id=60001025783\">filed comments<\/a>\u00a0with the FCC on the waiver request. It said:<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;iRobot&#8217;s [robot lawn mowers] can certainly operate over most of this country without interfering with radio astronomy operations but they equally certainly must be prevented from operating across the protected methanol band when this will cause interference, especially within the [national radio quiet zone].&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>It said that the lawn mowers should not be allowed to operate within 89 kilometers (about 55 miles) of a radio telescope \u2013 an area called the exclusion zone.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/apps.fcc.gov\/ecfs\/document\/view?id=60001041441\">In its response<\/a>\u00a0to the NRAO response, iRobot said: &#8220;As a realistic matter, iRobot&#8217;s proposed operations will have an infinitesimal likelihood of impacting any radio astronomy measurements in the band.&#8221; It said the robot lawn mowers &#8220;will not be operating in close proximity to radio astronomy sites&#8221; and added that NRAO was &#8220;significantly&#8221; overstating its exclusion zone, and that the zone should be more than 19.3 km (about 12 miles). And it said:<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;The NRAO observatories for the most part are not closely surrounded by residential areas, at least no residential areas with lawns. A review of the observatory locations on Google maps also shows that many are surrounded by desert or forests, not environments where residential lawn equipment is used.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>In response to that claim, NRAO, in a second response,\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/apps.fcc.gov\/ecfs\/document\/view?id=60001042025\">said<\/a>: &#8220;This claim is most charitably characterized as silly.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Harvey Liszt, spectrum manager with the NRAO, tells\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.wired.com\/2015\/04\/irobot-lawnbot\/\">Wired<\/a>\u00a0the &#8220;&#8221;NRAO is not trying to stop this, NRAO just wants people to respect where its telescopes are.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>The FCC will make a final decision.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<div id=\"nprSource\">Missing some content? Check the source:\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.npr.org\/2015\/04\/16\/400183904\">NPR<\/a><\/div>\n<div id=\"nprRights\">Copyright(c) 2015, NPR<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.northcountrypublicradio.org\/news\/npr\/400183904\/we-might-welcome-robot-lawn-mowers-but-astronomers-aren-t-so-happy\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">http:\/\/www.northcountrypublicradio.org\/news\/npr\/400183904\/we-might-welcome-robot-lawn-mowers-but-astronomers-aren-t-so-happy<\/span><\/a><\/span><\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/apps.fcc.gov\/ecfs\/document\/view?id=60001028220\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">http:\/\/apps.fcc.gov\/ecfs\/document\/view?id=60001028220<\/span><\/a><\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>AUTHOR: DAVEY ALBA\u00a0 04.16.15.04.16.15WHO CAN HATE\u00a0a Roomba? Astronomers, that\u2019s who. The robotic vacuums we all know and love ensure we don\u2019t have to clean our own homes ourselves to get them spotless. (God forbid.) Now, the Roomba\u2019s maker, iRobot, wants to do for lawn care\u00a0what it did for vacuuming. According to filings with the FCC\u00a0spotted [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[267,266],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-6569","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-white-zone","category-wireless-appliance"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/emrabc.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/6569","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/emrabc.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/emrabc.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/emrabc.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/emrabc.ca\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=6569"}],"version-history":[{"count":7,"href":"https:\/\/emrabc.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/6569\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":6578,"href":"https:\/\/emrabc.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/6569\/revisions\/6578"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/emrabc.ca\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=6569"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/emrabc.ca\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=6569"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/emrabc.ca\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=6569"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}